Sonora Gov. Claudia Pavlovich and Arizona Gov. Doug Ducey spoke.

SCOTTSDALE — The governors of Sonora and Arizona say they won’t let the rhetoric of the presumed Republican presidential contender get in the way of their efforts to expand the cross-border economy.

In an interview Friday with Capitol Media Services, Sonora Gov. Claudia Pavlovich said she is trying to build a “mega-region” with Arizona to attract companies interested in doing business on both sides of the border.

That means more trade, more tourism and more emphasis on convincing businesses that the border is not a barrier, but rather something that simply separates two halves of a whole, she said.

As Pavlovich acknowledged, that comes amid statements by Donald Trump calling Mexican immigrants criminals — at one time, he said many were “rapists” — and that he will build a border wall “and make Mexico pay for it.”

“We have to overcome all the obstacles that are before us,” Pavlovich said. “ Governor (Doug) Ducey and myself will overcome all the obstacles that we see in front of us.”

Ducey, who has agreed to back Trump as his party’s nominee, said the candidate’s rhetoric is just something that has to be dealt with.

“There are certain political realities we need to be aware of,” he said of the presidential campaign and the possibility that Trump could be the next White House occupant.

The key, said Ducey in his own interview with Capitol Media Services, is not letting those comments and the political race get in the way.

“If we focus on what the goal is, what our objectives are in terms of growing the economy, having safer communities, improving tourism and trade, we can work around those,” he said.

The pair were at last week’s meeting of the Arizona-Mexico Commission, an annual event that brings together political, business and civic leaders from both countries to discuss ways of improving the economy.

Ducey has made relations with Sonora a priority since taking office last year.

Specifically, he has tried to heal what has at times been a heated relationship between his predecessor, Jan Brewer, and officials south of the border.

Brewer signed 2010’s SB 1070, designed to give state and local police more power to detain and arrest people believed to be in this country illegally.

Brewer also issued an executive order in 2012 denying Arizona driver’s licenses to people brought to this country illegally as children.

At her own last Arizona-Mexico Commission meeting in 2014, Brewer made a point of talking about illegal immigration and flaying the federal government for flying migrant families and unaccompanied children into Arizona after processing facilities in Texas were overwhelmed.

Guillermo Padrés, at the time the governor of Sonora, instead chose at the 2014 meeting to talk about ensuring the safety and civil rights of those detained.

In contrast to Brewer, Ducey has made special efforts to build ties with Sonora, and specifically with Pavlovich.

This is not their first meeting. He attended her inauguration, and she has visited Phoenix before.

“I think the relationship with Mexico, the relationship that I’ve built with Governor Pavlovich in Sonora has been a positive,” Ducey said.

He said trade between Arizona and Mexico, much of which goes through and is attributed to Sonora, has increased by $1 billion during the past 12 months.

“That’s an excellent start,” Ducey said, with Mexico being the state’s largest trading partner.

The Eller College of Management at the University of Arizona puts Arizona exports to Mexico last year at $9.2 billion, with imports of $7.6 billion.

“So it’s incumbent for me to build this relationship and to build up our economy,” Ducey said. “And I think that’s a benefit to both of us.

“What I try to do is prioritize what’s most important,” the governor said. “That includes growing the economy.”

Ducey has not ignored the public safety aspects of being along the border.

Earlier this year, he asked lawmakers to provide an extra $31.5 million for the Arizona Border Strike Force Bureau within the state Department of Public Safety, saying it would help fight those who smuggle drugs and people.

Lawmakers provided $26 million.

Ducey said some of the border issues, such as immigration, are “a job for Washington, D.C. And that’s a job where we’ve seen zero leadership from both sides over the past 10 years.”

Asked if he thinks Trump as president would change that, Ducey responded, “I’m going to focus on my day job.”


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