Pictured is the Spicy Jim pizza from Penelope Wood Fired Pizza, which has pepperoni and jalapeΓ±o.Β 

Editor's note: This story was originally published on Sept. 22, 2022. We're republishing this story on Oct. 4, 2022 because Penelope Wood Fired Pizza is now open! Hours are 11 a.m. to 6 p.m. Tuesday through Saturday.


It was 2020 when Jared Schwartz got a mixer and started making pizza dough, eventually selling DIY pizza kits and donating pizzas to hospitality employees.

It was also 2020 when he moved from Phoenix to Tucson, and started pizza trailer Over The Counter.Β He moved here with his partner Ashley, a resident at Banner’s pediatric program and someone you’ve likely seen if you've ever eaten at Over The Counter before.

β€œShe’s been a pretty integral role in the business and getting it off the ground,” Schwartz says. β€œShe’s definitely been a key asset to making all of it happen.”

Now two years later, Schwartz is about to open a brick-and-mortar spot inside Cartel Roasting Co. downtown, 210 E. Broadway. The opening date is set for Oct. 4.

β€œIt kinda snowballed from that and the idea for Over The Counter was to be a stepping stone to be an umbrella company and grow into a brick-and-mortar company,” Schwartz says.

The name β€œOver The Counter” will be retired β€” sort of β€” as a new name takes its place. The brick and mortar is dubbed Penelope Wood Fired Pizza, after a family member.

β€œCartel Coffee downtown has a really beautiful oven and when they first built that space out, they had the idea to activate a pizza program for the company,” he says.

Penelope will be subleasing the space, operating as its own separate business inside the Cartel building.

On Oct. 4, Penelope Wood Fired Pizza, formerly Over The Counter, will move into Cartel Roasting Co. downtown.

β€œThere’s arguments for both ways, and benefits on both sides of the playing field, for brick and mortar and/or staying mobile,” Schwartz says. β€œIt goes back and forth. I come from running restaurants, being a manager. My passion is in full-service-style restaurants, so I had the goal of making my way back into restaurants, especially if I was opening something on my own. The goal was to have a brick-and-mortar setting to be able to work off my life experience β€” my whole career has been in restaurants.”

Then there’s the benefit of being inside, surrounded by air conditioning and away from the elements. Not just for the employees, but for the pizza dough.

β€œThe dough β€” it can be a fickle ingredient,” he says. β€œHaving it in 115-degree weather or having it in the cold weather β€” it’s been an interesting endeavor for having a mobile business.

β€œI’m really excited to have a consistent product and be in the situation where we can really control the environment and make sure the product is coming out in the best, consistent manner.”

Something Schwartz is particularly excited about: having the ability to create a spot for people to visit regularly and develop a sense of community.

Penelope Wood Fired Pizza owner Jared Schwartz has managed several restaurants and is now opening a brick and mortar of his own.

β€œOne thing I missed about the trailer β€” I got to be part of several communities rather than starting our own,” he says.

If you’ve been to the pizza trailer before, you know there are three signature pizzas on the menu: the Sgt. Pepper sausage pizza with hatch green chile salt and hot honey; the Spicy Jim, a spicy pepperoni jalapeΓ±o pizza; and Margherita, with lemon parmesan. All three pizzas will remain on Penelope’s menu when the brick-and-mortar space opens next month.

Schwartz plans to open with a limited menu in the beginning. The full vision includesΒ more pizza options, plus salads and sandwiches, thenΒ expanding the menu into later dinner service with potentially a late-night menu at some point. He also plans to offer grab-and-go items.

Cartel has a liquor license, too, so there’s the option to order beer or wine alongside your pie β€” and possibly cocktails in the future.

The pizza oven for Over The Counter, now Penelope Wood Fired Pizza, sits inside an old-fashioned GMC truck.

As for the pizza truck that you may have seen at events around town, its oven tucked into an old-fashioned GMC truck, it’s not going away forever.Β 

β€œThe trailer was the heart and soul of our business and how we started for a while, so we don’t want to keep it too far off the radar or keep it garaged for too long,” Schwartz says.

Once Penelope is on its feet, he hopes to bring the trailer back for catering events.

β€œThe trailer is a big part of us,” he says. β€œIf I could put it in the middle of the restaurant one day as a focal point, I would.”


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