Arizona Speaker Ben TomaΒ 

PHOENIX β€” Arizona’s speaker of the House wants to make sure high schoolers get at least a crash course on the history of communist regimes.

And the coursework he wants to mandate is designed to convince them there’s nothing good about that system.

β€œOf course, you want to be generous to people, you want to help people, those that have should share with those who don’t,’’ said Toma, a Peoria Republican. β€œThe problem is forced charity is no longer charity first of all. And, secondly, it doesn’t work in the real world. It doesn’t work anywhere.’’

His proposed law, House Bill 2629, would require at least 45 minutes of classroom instruction on communist regimes in any American government course needed to graduate from high school.

It would mandate that the instruction include β€œthe prevalence of poverty, starvation, migration, systemic lethal violence and suppression of speech’’ under those regimes.

Arizona lawmakers have put their views about communism into state law before.

Two years ago, Rep. Quang Nguyen, R-Prescott Valley, shepherded a measure through the Legislature to dictate that Arizona schools must teach students how the concepts of communism and totalitarianism are in conflict with freedom and democracy.

That law does more than mandate a comparison. It also requires the state Board of Education to develop standards that instruct students about β€œthe civic-minded expectations of an upright and desirable citizenry that recognizes and accepts responsibility for preserving and defending the blessings of liberty inherited from prior generations and secured by the United States Constitution.’’

Arizona also is a state where it took legislators until 2003 to repeal a provision in law requiring public officers and employees to swear they are not or will not become a member of the Communist Party. That was despite the fact that the U.S. Supreme Court ruled 37 years earlier, in the case of a Tucson teacher, that such an oath was unconstitutional. The justices said people who join such groups but who do not participate in unlawful activities on their behalf β€œsurely pose no threat, either as citizens or as public employees.’’

Other laws targeting that strain of politics remain on Arizona’s books, including a provision in the state Election Code that prohibits recognition of the Communist Party of the United States. It comes complete with a legislative finding that the constitutional rights of Arizonans β€œdo not include the right to embrace communism or to attempt to persuade others to embrace communism.’’

Also, state laws protecting employees against discrimination specifically spell out that they do not apply to anyone who is a member of the Communist Party.

Toma’s proposal has two parts.

The first would declare Nov. 7 each year as β€œVictims of Communism Day.’’ While not a legal holiday, meaning a day off, it would be observed on that day in schools or, if schools are closed that day, the following day when classes are in session.

Nov. 7 is the date in 1917 when the Bolshevik political party seized control of the Russian capital, a precursor to the founding of the now-defunct Soviet Union.

The second part of his plan is the classroom lesson that would be mandated. Toma has included a list of leaders and their history he thinks would be relevant to the course, ranging from Joseph Stalin and the Soviet system to Mao Zedong and the cultural revolution to Fidel Castro and the Cuban Revolution, and on up to Nicholas Maduro, the current president of Venezuela, and the Chavismo movement named after former Venezuelan president Hugo Chavez.

Why something that specific?

β€œBecause 100 million people lost their lives worldwide,’’ Toma said. β€œThese same ideas are being brought up now, over and over and over again. And they have to be taught.’’

He said it’s one thing if people β€œwant to repeat those mistakes.’’

β€œBut people need to know,’’ he said.

Some of Toma’s interest is based on his own experience. His family fled Romania when he was a child.

β€œIt’s not just my background,’’ he said. β€œIt’s the background of many other people, including currently in China, in North Korea, Vietnam, places like that that still have communism, that still have to deal with it. Not to mention the amount of damage and, again, the millions or hundreds of millions that have lost their lives, or more.’’

His legislation addresses only what he says are the evils of communism and nothing about other despotic regimes that have a different economic system.

β€œIf they want to teach about totalitarianism, by all means, teach that as well,’’ Toma said.

β€œBut communism is a very specific system that is structured and is the same basically everywhere,’’ he said. β€œAnd, as such, it needs to be taught.’’

Toma made it clear that, as far as he’s concerned, there is nothing good that has ever come out of a communist regime. For example, he dismissed arguments that some things are better in Cuba, which has a higher literacy rate than the United States and health care that now is more accessible than it was under the dictatorship of Fulgencio Batista whom Castro overthrew in 1959.

The proof, Toma said, is that people continue to flee the island nation. Nor was it his experience in Romania that health care was somehow more accessible.

β€œI remember how the system worked in Romania,’’ he said. β€œIf you weren’t able to pay and bribe your way into getting care, you never got it. And that’s the reality. Millions died.’’

Asked if there any people who are better off now under a communist regime than they were before, possibly including any in China, Toma responded, β€œI’m not familiar with all the specifics of Chinese history.

β€œIf there is anything better in China, it’s the fact that they actually incorporated many of the ideas from our free market system and the fact that they’ve been able to, based on the amount of that we’ve sent them, and the opportunities we’ve provided to them, really raised the level of existence for many of the citizens that are there.’’

Still, Toma said, nothing in his legislation bars teachers from telling students about what might be positive aspects of communism. But he would view any such lesson with a great deal of skepticism.

β€œI’m not a big fan of revisionist history,’’ he said. β€œI think we should be very clear on what actually happened. And if there is something good? Hey, let’s have that debate.’’

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Howard Fischer is a veteran journalist who has been reporting since 1970 and covering state politics and the Legislature since 1982. Follow him on X, formerly known as Twitter, and Threads at @azcapmedia or email azcapmedia@gmail.com.