Arizona Democratic Gov. Katie Hobbs began her term last week. Republican lawmakers expect her to veto some of their legislation this session.

PHOENIX โ€” The 2023 legislative session gets started Monday, Jan. 9, with perhaps the worst-kept political secret: Republican lawmakers are going to send bills to Democratic Gov. Katie Hobbs even knowing ahead of time she will veto them.

The frank admission by the top GOP lawmakers in both chambers came Friday as they and their Democratic counterparts gave a brief overview of the upcoming session at a luncheon hosted by the Arizona Chamber of Commerce and Industry.

โ€œWe want to try to work with the governor,โ€™โ€™ said incoming Senate President Warren Petersen. And the Gilbert Republican said he had set a record several years ago as the lawmaker who got the highest percentage of his bills signed by the governor.

Petersen said every lawmaker has the same goal.

โ€œHow you have a high percentage of bills passed is you look at the landscape, you look at the legislators, you look at the chairs (of the committees through which the bills have to pass),โ€™โ€™ he said. And that calculus, Petersen said, includes the governor.

His record, however, was set when fellow Republican Doug Ducey was the stateโ€™s chief executive.

Now that situation has changed. But Petersen said that wonโ€™t affect the decision whether to transmit bills to the governor.

โ€œThere may be some bills that you do know that are going to get vetoed,โ€™โ€™ he said.

โ€œI wouldnโ€™t imagine there would be a million of those or a huge block of those,โ€™โ€™ Petersen continued. โ€œBut those may be important to advance your cause.โ€™โ€™

Ben Toma of Peoria, set to be installed as House speaker, agreed.

โ€œI guess Iโ€™m stating the obvious at some point here,โ€™โ€™ he said. โ€œBut there will be bills that are going to be important for our caucus to get on the governorโ€™s desk that are going to be important for her probably to veto.โ€™โ€™

What it comes down to, Toma said, is that Republicans and Democrats just donโ€™t see things some things the same way.

โ€œIt just highlights the difference of opinion on what is best for the state,โ€™โ€™ he said.

Neither GOP leader gave specific examples of what issues they are likely to advance even anticipating Hobbsโ€™ rejection.

The confession of sorts came as no surprise to Murphy Hebert who is in charge of communications for the new governor.

โ€œIt seems to be how it works,โ€™โ€™ she said. But Hebert also said that lawmakers should not be surprised when those bills come back.

โ€œGovernor Hobbs has made it very clear sheโ€™s willing to use the veto stamp,โ€™โ€™ she said.

And not just any veto stamp.

Hobbs was given a veto stamp that once belonged to Janet Napolitano, the last Democrat to hold office, which apparently had been kept by one of the former governorโ€™s aides. And he, in turn, presented it to Hobbs.

It comes somewhat used.

In her six years as governor โ€” she quit in early 2009 to become Homeland Security secretary in the Obama administration โ€” Napolitano vetoed 180 of the measures sent to her, including a record 58 in 2005 alone.

Contractors remove former Gov. Doug Duceyโ€™s barrier from the Coronado National Forest. The unauthorized project cost taxpayers more than $100 million to install and remove.ย 


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Howard Fischer is a veteran journalist who has been reporting since 1970 and covering state politics and the Legislature since 1982. Follow him on Twitter at @azcapmedia or email azcapmedia@gmail.com.