Because his upcoming HBO documentary contains some previously unheard wiretapped conversations involving Arizona coach Sean Miller and agent Christian Dawkins, director Pat Kondelis is aware he might be a lightning rod for some Wildcats fans.
But Kondelis said Thursday that those wiretaps are just a small part of a much bigger story heβs telling in βThe Scheme,β a documentary scheduled for a March 31 release that details Dawkinsβ role in an FBI investigation that ultimately came up short in derailing college basketballβs big names.
One of the wiretaps played includes Dawkins telling Miller that handlers of five-star recruit Nassir Little βdefinitely wanted to get some (expletive) for themselves,β and Miller responding by asking, βMiami doesnβt have an advantage over us in that area, do they?β
In another, former Arizona assistant coach Book Richardson tells Dawkins that Miller has been paying β10β per month for Deandre Ayton, who had just arrived on campus when the conversation was recorded in July 2017.
βI know thereβs a whole lot of delusional Arizona fans that are on social media right now that will convince themselves that that doesnβt mean what they donβt want it to mean,β Kondelis said. βBut I think the other part of this is that I take severe issue with any of this being framed in a way that Christian or HBO or myself is attacking Sean Miller and (LSU coach) Will Wade. Nobody cares. I donβt care at all. I mean, I donβt want to see anybody get fired. Christian says very plainly that the coaches that were paying players, he thinks, are good guys and the ones that arenβt are bad guys.β
In May, a jury found Dawkins guilty of bribery and conspiracy to commit bribery. Dawkins told a Star correspondent on the courthouse steps that he never had a conversation with Miller about delivering Ayton despite a February 2018 ESPN.com report that they discussed a $100,000 payment. And Kondelis said Thursday that Dawkins has made it clear that he never talked with Miller about paying Ayton.
Miller denied the ESPN report at the time, saying he βnever discussed with Christian Dawkins paying Deandre Ayton to attend the University of Arizonaβ and saying that he never met or spoke to Dawkins until after Ayton verbally committed to the UA.
But Kondelis said Dawkins βdid have that conversation with Bookβ on July 20, 2017 β a conversation that is played in the movie.
βWeβll see how Sean plays it out,β Dawkins tells Richardson in βThe Schemeβ. βYou know what Iβm saying? Weβll see if heβs a man of his word. Because he brought it up to me.β
Richardson replies, βYeah, βcause he need help. You know what he doing per month? I told you. Ten.β Richardson, who spent three months in prison after accepting a plea deal, declined to participate in the film.
Of that conversation, Kondelis says:
βChristian again, ironically, is not even the person that asks,β Kondelis said. βBook says, βYou know what heβs doing a month? And he says β10.β And then Christianβs like, βYeah, heβs paying some real money.ββ
Kondelis said even though that call is receiving βso much attention, to me, it doesnβt really matter,β since he was trying to show a bigger picture in the documentary.
βThe Schemeβ also plays a wiretapped call between Wade and Dawkins in which Wade says he made a βstrong-assβ offer for recruit Javonte Smart. That call was reported by Yahoo Sports in March 2018 but not aired previously.
Yahooβs Dan Wetzel, who was interviewed extensively in βThe Scheme,β said on his podcast this week that the documentary shows how recruiting can work in the shadows of NCAA amateurism rules.
βI donβt care whether Will Wade is the coach or not; I donβt care if Sean Miller is the coach or not,β Wetzel said. β... but if you listen to these tapes, and you think Will Wade and Sean Miller are not in on it, I canβt tell you what to believe. OK? But Iβm not going to be that naive.β
Not only are issues with the NCAAβs amateurism stance raised during the documentary, but so are issues with the FBIβs investigation.
The FBI held a news conference following the arrest of Richardson, Dawkins and others where officials described what they said was a scheme: Shoe companies and agents would funnel payments to players via agents and coaches in exchange for promises to steer those players to sign with them as clients after turning pro.
And at the end of the investigation, an investor in Dawkinsβ firm revealed that she was actually an undercover FBI agent. Dawkins said the FBI told him during a meeting in a hotel suite that he βwould be fineβ if he could deliver information about names such as Rick Pitino, agent Andy Miller and Sean Miller.
Instead, Dawkins said in the movie, he told FBI agents that he wanted to call a lawyer. As soon as he did, Dawkins said, the doors to the suite burst open with agents pointing machine guns at him.
βAt this point, I thought they were just gonna (expletive) kill me,β Dawkins said in the movie. βI die because of basketball.β
Dawkinsβ refusal to cooperate, Kondelis believes, is a big reason why the FBI never charged bigger names. Kondelis said Dawkins was not paid to participate in the film, but βdid receive something for providing archival materials.β
βThey wanted him to wear a wire right there in the room,β Kondelis said. βAnd as heβs being arrested, Sean Miller calls him. So theyβre saying, βHey, wear a wire. We want you to call these people.β They were going to try to get Christian to bait them into more incriminating things to say on the phone.β
That was only one of the potential issues the movie raises with the investigation.
Kondelis said itβs possible that the FBI wound down its efforts after an undercover agent was accused of spending FBI money on gambling and other personal uses, according to a Wall Street Journal report, and that the FBI may have been pushing the lines too close to entrapment. An undercover agent repeatedly pushed Dawkins to pay coaches, something Dawkins said he resisted doing.
βI think thatβs definitely plausible,β Kondelis said. βI donβt know for sure. Again, the point is when all these people were arrested, (the FBI) went in front of the cameras and said, βWe got it, we got it, and thereβs more coming and we know exactly whatβs happening.ββ
Kondelis noted that, until the investigation began, breaking NCAA rules was not considered a federal crime β βso thatβs a real stretch on their part to begin with,β he said β while noting that investigators looked into Adidas when Nike βadmits to kind of openly doingβ the same things. (A Nike attorney said during Michael Avenattiβs trial in February that βwe never took the position that there were no payments to players.β)
The FBI declined to be interviewed for βThe Scheme.β
βIt just doesnβt make sense,β Kondelis said. βAnd nobody knows the real answer other than the FBI and the Southern District themselves. But I think you cannot deny that they clearly intended to bring down huge-name coaches. They got a hell of a lot of evidence. They got them on wiretaps. I havenβt heard all of them and I donβt even know the total number that were recorded, but thereβs a hell of a lot more than what I heard.
βAnd they stopped. And not only did they stop, but then they started to protect them and would not even allow them to step foot in court.
βThatβs pretty shocking. Thatβs pretty shocking.β